Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by jpa_wfsc » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:21 pm

alan williams wrote:Hi Phil
I know what it is but I'll keep the secret, cost you a pint though. Hairy Hornet sailor in the past now balding Finn sailor. Hence the reason for stopping at Dizzy's on the way to a rugby match.
Cheers Al
Go on then Alan - put us out of our misery?

By the way - has it got a centre tank where the CB case usually is? Has it got no side tanks at all - just a double floor? Does the centre tank lead right back to an open transom? If we saw that transom would we all know what it is?
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Nessa » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:26 pm

I have submitted a confident guess
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Max McCarthy » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:55 pm

I have got lots of ideas about the boat. But no boat I have ever seen (or remember seeing) has ever had all these features (or I am just confused about it).
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by alan williams » Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:52 pm

Hi Phil
As old friends there is no way I'm going to give up your secret.
Cheers Al

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Merlin3241 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:43 am

Al- Thanks, I appreciate that.
Nessa, sorry, getting cooler again.
Hoped to get the mystery boat out of the workshop yesterday for some better photo's but have genuinely mislaid the keys. If they don't turn up in a day or two I'm in serious trouble as I'll run out of piccies!

Day 10:
The designer was a gifted amateur, I'm not aware he designed any other boats.
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Nessa » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:15 am

oh! :twisted:
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by jpa_wfsc » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:56 am

... more and more puzzled. What a trip you are taking us on!
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Nessa » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:59 am

I know the lake now........doesn't help at all....
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Merlin3241 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:16 pm

Pat. Nice idea and I'm sure they're a lovely boat, but, c'mon, you've met the wife. If she wanted to helm she'd need to stand on a beer crate to see over the bow!
Possibility of a hull piccie tomorrow

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by angus » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:00 pm

I am really enjoying this thread, not least for the photography, it reminds me of mine unfortunately when I'm doing it I am trying to clarrify rather than obscure if you get my drift.
I am pretty clueless, I did wonder about a Street Legal but I check a few photos and the max beam is well forward of 10' anyway I eventually came up with a wild guess total stab in the dark and I am sure there are plenty of other things it could be but how about a national 18. I know of one one off that was made between them allowing other building methods and them becoming a one design. There is also the sheding of 8kgs, they did get rid off metal centreboards although that would get rid of a lot more weight than 7kgs. Are well anything to get in on the fun.

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Pat » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:49 pm

Phil - they're not quite that high - my ex was interested in one as a family coastal boat so we spent some time looking at them. But since it's HER boat I suppose the new addition would be more sporty.

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Merlin3241 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:27 am

Nessa's latest PM guess- I agree the standard of my photography might imply such a boat but no. On the warm to cold scale I think I just saw Sir David Attenborough being pursued out of my drive by a polar bear carrying a video camera.
Day 11.
The midpoint of the transom is 8 1/2 inches (21cm approx) when measured vertically.
With 11 days of clues left we all deserve a hull piccie? Flat sections and flare?
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Max McCarthy » Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:19 am

It is most likely not this, but what the hell,
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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by JimC » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:38 pm

Interesting. Starts looking like a very British medium performance boat hull shape to me, the sorts of thing you'd find on Nationals and Merlins. Certainly can't be a Merlin, and surely too big for a National, plus that strange internal layout. Do I detect hull damage in a glass hull? Or is it more superficial than it looks? I think there may be just the start of a cb/daggerboard slot at the trolley cradle, which looks as if it belongs to the boat. That hull shape and the apprent cb slot (which suggests that its not a keelboat) makes me think the reason it doesn't make CVRDA status is because its fairly recent, although the interior looks older.

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Re: Xmas Advent Calendar- Guess the Boat

Post by Nessa » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:53 pm

just chipping the icicle off my nose....

I think it's a composite, and I think it's possibly a first or early composite for that class, hence the historical significance...and as Jim says, it's too recent for cvrda status. I thought Miracle (as I suspect others did) but that hull shape is wrong.
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