Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
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Can anyone confirm if this is a Mercury Dinghy and if it is how they sail ?
Can anyone confirm if this is a Mercury Dinghy and if it is how they sail ?
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
Yes, definitely a Mercury. They sail well, off the same handicap as a Wayfarer generally. They have a good amount of rocker so they tack quickly, are pretty fast upwind. They do have a small spinnaker but struggle to carry it on a reach as they haven't got the sharper turn of bilge of say a Lark
Not many around now, only 100 were built but worth looking after.
Not many around now, only 100 were built but worth looking after.
PeterV
Finn K197 & GBR564
Warsash
Finn K197 & GBR564
Warsash
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
Just looking at those pictures of the Mercury, I suddenly could 'smell' the wooden dinghies the old jeans, plimsolls and waterproof top I wore when sailing in the '60's and 70's......................
Plastic boats just don't have the same sensory experience!
Plastic boats just don't have the same sensory experience!
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
I relate to that! The smell of the varnished woodwork as the canvas cover is rolled back on my Mirror is still in my nostrils today...cweed wrote:Just looking at those pictures of the Mercury, I suddenly could 'smell' the wooden dinghies the old jeans, plimsolls and waterproof top I wore when sailing in the '60's and 70's......................
Plastic boats just don't have the same sensory experience!
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I can still recall the wiff of wood becoming charcoal, when a Mirror, avec le derrière wrotten, likewise a Streaker and Phantom, had a burn up, all of which donated many parts to other more fortunate wooden craft, a Russian Firefly Copy now Lithuanian sports Butterfly's old sails, and Butterfly is in two halves outback behind a Wooden Minisail Sprite and Minisprint Monaco Plastic hull.
I recall the smell of wooden and metal shavings plus the burnt bacon of the forge when helping construct a Wayfairer circa 1965/6, the GP 14s we sailed in Seamanship from the dock Anex of Grimsby Nautical and Navigation College, were odourless as the all pervading wiff of fishes, the catches from the all flourishing Fishing boat fleets/fish markets etc made any other pong redundant.
Likewise the hardy folk who worked so very hard when the place flourished, and European Fish quotas were not heard of.
I recall the smell of wooden and metal shavings plus the burnt bacon of the forge when helping construct a Wayfairer circa 1965/6, the GP 14s we sailed in Seamanship from the dock Anex of Grimsby Nautical and Navigation College, were odourless as the all pervading wiff of fishes, the catches from the all flourishing Fishing boat fleets/fish markets etc made any other pong redundant.
Likewise the hardy folk who worked so very hard when the place flourished, and European Fish quotas were not heard of.
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Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
There were 100 mk1 Mercurys built, and one mk2, which was the only one making 101.
Which is under slow restoration, when I picked the boat up, I was given a box full of papers and photos, inc measurement, of the boat and sails, which I am happy to pass on if any needs them,
Which is under slow restoration, when I picked the boat up, I was given a box full of papers and photos, inc measurement, of the boat and sails, which I am happy to pass on if any needs them,
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
The smell I remember is that of the wet plimsolls. Better than wetsuit boots, but not by much.
The Mercury is a lovely boat to sail. Just felt right, like sitting in a comfey arm chair.
The Mercury is a lovely boat to sail. Just felt right, like sitting in a comfey arm chair.
Rupert
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
I always think of Bob Corfield when I see a Mercury. He was a good sailor but unbeatable in the Mercury.
Hornet 191 Shoestring,
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
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Hornet 353
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
Roger is right in that Bob (Caulfield) was a very good, not to mention highly competitive dinghy sailor. I knew him well, indeed, I stayed with him out in Brisbane where we sailed together.
But there is more to this story...lots more.
Some time back I did some analysis of what boat I would chose, if winning a classic event (I think I was looking at Bosham) was the object of the exercise, then I reasoned that there are some boats that are more capable of this than others. We are not talking about 'bandits' here, but a clearly identifiable approach to the production of a competitive boat.
For me, the Mercury was one (but only one) of a small number of boats that fulfilled the criteria I set.
par example..... Classic events are almost exclusively sailed on sheltered waters, in winds of 20 kts or less. Many such events are sailed inland, where fast tacking/quick acceleration is a real boost. As is a boat that is 'close winded'; there are very few events where you can crack the sheets and go for a better VMG by sailing fast and low.
Low wetted area is also a plus point given the number of events sailed in light airs. Add in a small, easily handled spinnaker for the downwind legs and you have a good combination. Rupert is right to highlight that there are better downwind performers such as the Lark, but again, given the nature of the racing, that advantage is often fairly marginal. Although we have had them, screaming 3 sail reaches are the exception rather than the rule in classic events)
Then there is the PY number itself. The Mercury 'suffered' (if that is the right term to use) from small numbers and a certain lack of sophistication. It never got a good chance to perform on a bigger stage, so its PY has remained at a point more in keeping with what I would describe at 'untapped potential'. Better still, the Mercury is positioned in the middle of the PY range; not being at either extreme is statistically an advantage (it suggests you'll always do well, even if you may be beaten occasionally but boats that meet 'perfect' weather for them). Lighter, more nimble than others in this ranger, round bilged, what is there not to like.
There are a number of other boats in this genre that I looked at.... LazyE (PY number reflects a trapeze), Swordfish (heavy), Albacore (I'm too good looking...I'll leave that to Sandy to drive), Zenith (another boat high on my list) then there are some real rarities out there..... Clipper, Silver Streak, Gannet and more.
Yes, it all sounds very contrived and to be sure, it is!! But I stress that at the time, this was just an intellectual exercise! That we have a boat being saved is great, I look forward to seeing it out afloat and yes, if we can meet up at an event, I will bring the scanner and copy some of that documentation.
Go for it!!
Dougal
But there is more to this story...lots more.
Some time back I did some analysis of what boat I would chose, if winning a classic event (I think I was looking at Bosham) was the object of the exercise, then I reasoned that there are some boats that are more capable of this than others. We are not talking about 'bandits' here, but a clearly identifiable approach to the production of a competitive boat.
For me, the Mercury was one (but only one) of a small number of boats that fulfilled the criteria I set.
par example..... Classic events are almost exclusively sailed on sheltered waters, in winds of 20 kts or less. Many such events are sailed inland, where fast tacking/quick acceleration is a real boost. As is a boat that is 'close winded'; there are very few events where you can crack the sheets and go for a better VMG by sailing fast and low.
Low wetted area is also a plus point given the number of events sailed in light airs. Add in a small, easily handled spinnaker for the downwind legs and you have a good combination. Rupert is right to highlight that there are better downwind performers such as the Lark, but again, given the nature of the racing, that advantage is often fairly marginal. Although we have had them, screaming 3 sail reaches are the exception rather than the rule in classic events)
Then there is the PY number itself. The Mercury 'suffered' (if that is the right term to use) from small numbers and a certain lack of sophistication. It never got a good chance to perform on a bigger stage, so its PY has remained at a point more in keeping with what I would describe at 'untapped potential'. Better still, the Mercury is positioned in the middle of the PY range; not being at either extreme is statistically an advantage (it suggests you'll always do well, even if you may be beaten occasionally but boats that meet 'perfect' weather for them). Lighter, more nimble than others in this ranger, round bilged, what is there not to like.
There are a number of other boats in this genre that I looked at.... LazyE (PY number reflects a trapeze), Swordfish (heavy), Albacore (I'm too good looking...I'll leave that to Sandy to drive), Zenith (another boat high on my list) then there are some real rarities out there..... Clipper, Silver Streak, Gannet and more.
Yes, it all sounds very contrived and to be sure, it is!! But I stress that at the time, this was just an intellectual exercise! That we have a boat being saved is great, I look forward to seeing it out afloat and yes, if we can meet up at an event, I will bring the scanner and copy some of that documentation.
Go for it!!
Dougal
David H
Re: Mercury Dinghy 87 ?
Agree with all of the above. The particular area of the Mercury that wasn't developed was the rig. Nearly all the boats have the original Proctor mast which had no bend in it whatsoever. Flat sails set very well on it but there's significnat potential in developing a more flexible rig. I had a Proctor C mast on mine, No.7 and as a result had to do a lot of thinking about bending the mast and, in certian conditions limiting the bend. It was all good fun but didn't disguise that fact that the boat was basically very slow, confirmed by anyone else who ever sailed it. But a great dea of potential in exploring that avenue further.
PeterV
Finn K197 & GBR564
Warsash
Finn K197 & GBR564
Warsash