Ride 'em scow boy!
Well the Swift cat is sold and down in Portsmouth, the sort of place it needs to be and the Scow Int Moth (1971 at lteh latest) has finally hit the wet stuff again.
Seems very usable and sails well, but a new sail with longer luff, shorter leach, fat head and improved headroom wouild be nice. Still it got my 13 yr olds interest in sailing going again, the pic is of he. The Pico may soon be consigned to the small adds.
Hoping to get it to Shearwater and Bristol?
Seems very usable and sails well, but a new sail with longer luff, shorter leach, fat head and improved headroom wouild be nice. Still it got my 13 yr olds interest in sailing going again, the pic is of he. The Pico may soon be consigned to the small adds.
Hoping to get it to Shearwater and Bristol?
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Before you all ask, no I have'nt bought the Swift.However, I did pick up another OK on Saturday and, yes, she is CVRDAable - just. Will keep an eye out for an all wooden one for you Stu.
No Swift has appeared at Hayling Ferry but there are a couple on empty spaces in the compound so fingers crossed.
The Moth really looks the part Jools.
And that colour!! Very kool.
No Swift has appeared at Hayling Ferry but there are a couple on empty spaces in the compound so fingers crossed.
The Moth really looks the part Jools.
And that colour!! Very kool.
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Scows, particularly scow Moths are one of my favorite dinghys. I just sold the Int Moth scow I owned this spring but am thinking of building a wingless scow for the U.S. Classic Scow Moth rule. My experiences were written up on the Australian Moth site;
http://www.moth-sailing.org/reports/200 ... ruary.html
It seems like there were a fair number of scows in the U.K.
Tom Dunderdale, boatbuilder in the UK has pics of his scow up at;
http://www.iotadesign.freeserve.co.uk/h ... _scow.html
Rod Mincher
http://www.moth-sailing.org/reports/200 ... ruary.html
It seems like there were a fair number of scows in the U.K.
Tom Dunderdale, boatbuilder in the UK has pics of his scow up at;
http://www.iotadesign.freeserve.co.uk/h ... _scow.html
Rod Mincher
Rod M
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Also for those who want to plow through some scow Moth history, there is a continuing Scow Moth thread over at the Australian Scow Moth site;
http://www.moth.asn.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110
Rod Mincher
http://www.moth.asn.au/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110
Rod Mincher
Rod M
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Rod, nice to see you've picked up our thread over here. Having sorted this older scow, I'm planning to build my son a Bunyip for next season from the plans you sent to me a few months ago. I'll also be looking to pick up any other scow I can find that appears from a garage or barn.
Tom Dunderdale and Mike Ewart are both racing 70's scows at our Haversham club, see the fat boats page on the UK Int Moth site for a photo I took about a year ago. There is quite an interest in the club in these boats, so the fleet may yet grow further.
Tom Dunderdale and Mike Ewart are both racing 70's scows at our Haversham club, see the fat boats page on the UK Int Moth site for a photo I took about a year ago. There is quite an interest in the club in these boats, so the fleet may yet grow further.
Mark In the Ausi forum, Rod makes great comments about the split of classic and modern moths in the USA. As the UK Int Moth association embraces these older boats and has events like Grafham at the end of October to which they are encouraged to attend, a separate classic fleet seems rather a shame. After all in their day these boats were as radical as the foiling boats of today and that's the joy of development classes.
Having said that, with three similar design and aged boats in one club, and more if we can find/build some I've no doubt the local rivalty is set to increase.
Having said that, with three similar design and aged boats in one club, and more if we can find/build some I've no doubt the local rivalty is set to increase.
Jools G
I would be interested in what your scow weighs. I assume it is 3 mm ply throughout. My guess is 65 - 75 lbs. And what is the width? 4'3" seems to be the width of most scows in the pre wing design era.
Also to reiterate on the Classic Moth rule here in the U.S. It is a box rule; 11' loa, 5' beam, 75 lbs hull weight, no hollows greater than 1" aft of the DB case. Rig is to the rule that was used pre-amalgamation; 15' luff, 9' foot, no full battens (close to the Europe sail, less roach, longer leech).
Jools scow has the Aussie sail plan; 17' luff, full battened. Interestingly, the pre wing Aussie sail plan was also smaller than the 8 sq. meter area adopted when the Aussie and Int Moths combined.
Rod Mincher
I would be interested in what your scow weighs. I assume it is 3 mm ply throughout. My guess is 65 - 75 lbs. And what is the width? 4'3" seems to be the width of most scows in the pre wing design era.
Also to reiterate on the Classic Moth rule here in the U.S. It is a box rule; 11' loa, 5' beam, 75 lbs hull weight, no hollows greater than 1" aft of the DB case. Rig is to the rule that was used pre-amalgamation; 15' luff, 9' foot, no full battens (close to the Europe sail, less roach, longer leech).
Jools scow has the Aussie sail plan; 17' luff, full battened. Interestingly, the pre wing Aussie sail plan was also smaller than the 8 sq. meter area adopted when the Aussie and Int Moths combined.
Rod Mincher
Rod M
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
The scow worked hard last weekend with a some races and fun sailing most of Saturday too, but a small leak and the rig loads have resulted in more work needed to the hull this week. I'm still not sure we can be ready with dry paint for Shearwater, but I'll be trying. Is just doing the Sunday a possibility?
The boat went quite well though when the breeze got up above drifting conditions but it was never strong enough to get heeled over with the lee chine biting the water up wind. Down wind it's fast even in the light stuff, well heeled to get more than half the hull clear of the water.
To answer Rod's questions, the boat's a bit wider than you expected at 4' 8" max beam and weighs in at just about 80lbs (after a few days drying out under cover). As suggested it's all 3mm ply.
The boat went quite well though when the breeze got up above drifting conditions but it was never strong enough to get heeled over with the lee chine biting the water up wind. Down wind it's fast even in the light stuff, well heeled to get more than half the hull clear of the water.
To answer Rod's questions, the boat's a bit wider than you expected at 4' 8" max beam and weighs in at just about 80lbs (after a few days drying out under cover). As suggested it's all 3mm ply.
Wow, 4'8" is wider than I have seen. The Peter Colse Mouldie was around 4'3" from the lines I have obtained from the web. I think the Imperium design was also around 4'3". I wonder how much English builders modified plans (happens all the time in a development class). The NZ scow Moth has a class rule of 90 lbs. and it is built out of 3 mm ply. I am hoping to build a Classic Moth scow to 75 lbs.
Rod
Rod
Rod M
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy
Annapolis MD USA
http://www.earwigoagin.blogspot.com
http://cbifda.blogspot.com/
Classic Moth: 105
PK Dinghy