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Nessa
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Graduate?

Post by Nessa » Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:46 pm

Does a Graduate make a viable single hander for a larger person like myself, or would I always be wishing for a crew? Is there a handicap for one sailed solo?
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Re: Graduate?

Post by chris » Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:03 pm

A couple of grads at our club often sail single handed. We take 20 off the py for sailing DH singly.

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Re: Graduate?

Post by MartinH » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:50 pm

I'm probably one of those Grad sailors Chris is referring to. The Grad is a great fun boat to sail single or double-handed. I must admit ours went best when Catherine helmed and I was crew/tactician. The reason I stopped sailing her was partly because my back was playing up and she was too heavy to recover up the slipway by myself without being crippled for days. In a bit of a blow the new main is very powerful but doesn't seem to point quite as high as the original sail (but it is only a few degrees).
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Re: Graduate?

Post by Rupert » Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:53 am

Yes, Grads, like Fireflies, are nice singlehanded, especially the satisfaction of getting a really good tack in with minimal jib flapping.

Ref the new sail not pointing as high - is this a known class thing, or just what you found? It wouldn't surprise me if the new main would involve a whole new tuning giude to bring everything back to what is right for max pointing, from jib settings to mast rake to spreader angles.
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Re: Graduate?

Post by kfz » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:23 pm

Rupert wrote:Yes, Grads, like Fireflies, are nice singlehanded, especially the satisfaction of getting a really good tack in with minimal jib flapping.

Ref the new sail not pointing as high - is this a known class thing, or just what you found? It wouldn't surprise me if the new main would involve a whole new tuning giude to bring everything back to what is right for max pointing, from jib settings to mast rake to spreader angles.

Basic aerodynamics if its more cambered and more specialised to certain conditions it willmay well stall easier and not point as high. you can fool mother nature a bit, but not too much. No free lunch.

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Re: Graduate?

Post by MartinH » Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:44 am

Rupert wrote:Yes, Grads, like Fireflies, are nice singlehanded, especially the satisfaction of getting a really good tack in with minimal jib flapping.

Ref the new sail not pointing as high - is this a known class thing, or just what you found? It wouldn't surprise me if the new main would involve a whole new tuning giude to bring everything back to what is right for max pointing, from jib settings to mast rake to spreader angles.
I think it is mainly down to the degree of tuning (and my personal incompetence). The new sail requires a nearly vertical mast while the old ones need moderate rake. I presume this due to the centre of effort moving aft slightly with the bigger, new sail.
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