And finally - a picture of a dinghy - hooraah...
Possibly the only classic(?) dinghy to complete the week..
And thanks to Kenneth Moore whose photo's I pinched from the WOBYC website....
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There would be no problem leaving the boat in the WOBYC dinghy park. It is not a secure compound, but in Lowestoft probably doesn't need to be - when I was up there the headline news item in the Lowestoft Journal was that someone had had the hubcaps pinched off thier car!!.neil wrote:I'm in. Though it's difficult to plan too far ahead at the moment I'll try and commit to being there. Might have to leave the Finn in Norfolk so I can do Wroxham and Oulton.
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Once more and then I have said my bit, I do commit my support to this putative event though!
Oulton Week & CVRDA.
I’ll declare an interest Oulton Broad is where I learned and honed some early sailing skills. Misspent my youth etc., etc.
I love the place.
It was in those days a rather quaint little village, rather than the clutch of developed boat-yards, maltings and farm land into holiday homes, that now encloses its Eastern end, the Northern shore always was houses but rather more so nowadays, however it remains, very friendly close to “entertainments” for the young who do not sail and a good piece of water for racing on. Dinghies up to and including Flying Dutchman can race successfully on the broad and Racing Cruisers up to 40ft overall do so too, though these days they do so, when the other classes are not racing!
The characteristic generous offer by WOBYC gives CVRDA members an opportunity for a week of sailing, solitary contemplation and socialising according to wishes in a still relatively unspoilt surroundings without the “Rules and Regulations” that so often go with venues for regattas these days.
Plus doubtless the opportunity to hitch a ride in other classes and boats of the Classic and Vintage persuasion (Built from 1898 onwards!) that if not unique will certainly be a new experience for most.
All WOBYC ask, not unreasonably, is a commitment by late autumn of this year for three races a day during the week (Using CVRDA Handicaps.) at no doubt a very reasonable cost, plenty of cheap B&B’s and camp venues close by.
A sunny, warm dry climate better by far than the west weather wise.
I appreciate “commitment” is difficult, but if we do not do so, to events, they will not take place!
Oulton Broad a history of dinghy sailing especially pre-war in INt 14's.
Oulton Week & CVRDA.
I’ll declare an interest Oulton Broad is where I learned and honed some early sailing skills. Misspent my youth etc., etc.
I love the place.
It was in those days a rather quaint little village, rather than the clutch of developed boat-yards, maltings and farm land into holiday homes, that now encloses its Eastern end, the Northern shore always was houses but rather more so nowadays, however it remains, very friendly close to “entertainments” for the young who do not sail and a good piece of water for racing on. Dinghies up to and including Flying Dutchman can race successfully on the broad and Racing Cruisers up to 40ft overall do so too, though these days they do so, when the other classes are not racing!
The characteristic generous offer by WOBYC gives CVRDA members an opportunity for a week of sailing, solitary contemplation and socialising according to wishes in a still relatively unspoilt surroundings without the “Rules and Regulations” that so often go with venues for regattas these days.
Plus doubtless the opportunity to hitch a ride in other classes and boats of the Classic and Vintage persuasion (Built from 1898 onwards!) that if not unique will certainly be a new experience for most.
All WOBYC ask, not unreasonably, is a commitment by late autumn of this year for three races a day during the week (Using CVRDA Handicaps.) at no doubt a very reasonable cost, plenty of cheap B&B’s and camp venues close by.
A sunny, warm dry climate better by far than the west weather wise.
I appreciate “commitment” is difficult, but if we do not do so, to events, they will not take place!
Oulton Broad a history of dinghy sailing especially pre-war in INt 14's.
Simples.
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I'm not sure but normally it's about a pound a race with a discount for entering for the week.. will find out more later..
I would also like to add following on from what AG said, - the Broads River Cruisers are always looking for crew, if you make it known, you could always have a sail in one of these heavily over canvassed boats built from about the 1890's to the present day..
Having done a few seasons on Vagabond (RCC18) as mainsheet man - we won the Sabrina Trophy (The travellers trophy for Broads River Cruisers), I can not empasise how it feels to sail one of these craft (it isn't dinghy sailing - but dinghy skills apply!! They are SOOOO over canvased, some even have to reef in a force 2!!!)
So you could do the CVRDA races and also hitch a ride on a River Cruiser Class Yacht, if you so wished....
I would also like to add following on from what AG said, - the Broads River Cruisers are always looking for crew, if you make it known, you could always have a sail in one of these heavily over canvassed boats built from about the 1890's to the present day..
Having done a few seasons on Vagabond (RCC18) as mainsheet man - we won the Sabrina Trophy (The travellers trophy for Broads River Cruisers), I can not empasise how it feels to sail one of these craft (it isn't dinghy sailing - but dinghy skills apply!! They are SOOOO over canvased, some even have to reef in a force 2!!!)
So you could do the CVRDA races and also hitch a ride on a River Cruiser Class Yacht, if you so wished....
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Nice to see the picture of Maidie - she really is a glorious boat...
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So Jim did that whet your appetite?.....
And that is not what I would call her "proper rig". Her previuos (proper) rig was a full gaff rig main with topsail - it was a gorgeous rig... But Barnsie needed a big crew who really knew what they were doing to sail her - so hard to find.... Everyone wants to sail singlehanders these days, and has lost touch, or has no experience of an overcanvassed keel boat with a a crew..
Just acouple examples of Maidie with her "Old Rig"..
And that is not what I would call her "proper rig". Her previuos (proper) rig was a full gaff rig main with topsail - it was a gorgeous rig... But Barnsie needed a big crew who really knew what they were doing to sail her - so hard to find.... Everyone wants to sail singlehanders these days, and has lost touch, or has no experience of an overcanvassed keel boat with a a crew..
Just acouple examples of Maidie with her "Old Rig"..
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Someone mentioning entry fees laughably small at WOBYC as always reminded me of this.
Oulton Week Entry Fees.
In my formative youth, the only prizes were cash, in brown envelopes, and because we kept our boats elsewhere on the Broad (In my case, Enterprise, Merlin-Rocket, Norfolk Dinghy, and other sundries including Oulton Gull & the original Fireball on her initial demonstration tour!) it was usual to sail up to the box and ask to be entered tossing the half-crown entry fee ashore, by mid week of this particular year we were having a good week and had not collected any winnings so when we called to be entered and were asked for our half-crown (A search found we hadn’t got it!) the answer was "take it out of the prize money"! This gave the visiting, club of the day, (I think Norwich Frostbites.), Commodore apoplexy until someone pointed out the size of our credit balance in the prize tray!
Does anyone else remember Swanny (Mr Swann) the RN&SYC's flag man (Loaned for the week.) and gun firer!
Oulton Week Entry Fees.
In my formative youth, the only prizes were cash, in brown envelopes, and because we kept our boats elsewhere on the Broad (In my case, Enterprise, Merlin-Rocket, Norfolk Dinghy, and other sundries including Oulton Gull & the original Fireball on her initial demonstration tour!) it was usual to sail up to the box and ask to be entered tossing the half-crown entry fee ashore, by mid week of this particular year we were having a good week and had not collected any winnings so when we called to be entered and were asked for our half-crown (A search found we hadn’t got it!) the answer was "take it out of the prize money"! This gave the visiting, club of the day, (I think Norwich Frostbites.), Commodore apoplexy until someone pointed out the size of our credit balance in the prize tray!
Does anyone else remember Swanny (Mr Swann) the RN&SYC's flag man (Loaned for the week.) and gun firer!
Simples.
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Not strictly Oulton Week but Madies Commisioning picture attached.
When Mike Barnes rescued her (1993 from memory?) (There was a feature in Y&Y on her then.) She had her modern Bermudian Norway Pole of a bermudian rig replaced by Crossbow 1's mast and main the Gaff rig was I think, just for her centenary year!
If you have not raced a Broads Cruiser you have not lived!
When Mike Barnes rescued her (1993 from memory?) (There was a feature in Y&Y on her then.) She had her modern Bermudian Norway Pole of a bermudian rig replaced by Crossbow 1's mast and main the Gaff rig was I think, just for her centenary year!
If you have not raced a Broads Cruiser you have not lived!
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I donn't know Mr Swann, but quite a few years back we launched an Oulton Gull ( and I'm sure it's the only remaineing one) at Trumans (It sank!! - well it hadn't been afloat for 13 years, at least!!), and it did give Mathew Truman a chance to Sail. If we could have got it water tight, he would have gone well (even at seven he has a good sailor), it looked like a lovely boat to sail.... Prosably only AG and Myself know Oulton Gulls - think of a miniteur Star trainer and that is probably the best description...
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Oulton Week never changes - the prize money still arrives in Brown Envelopes. Let's just hope we donn't have a politician arive!!!!
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Just looked at the commisioning picture of Maidie, that's smaller than Barnsie put on her when she was restorered (I am sure Mike is watching this forum to disagree with me!!). Maybe that is why she has Ladybirds old rig..
Sorry,,,,
Just re-alised my waffle has nothing to do with dinghys!!!!!!
Sorry,,,,
Just re-alised my waffle has nothing to do with dinghys!!!!!!
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OK....trying to plan a year in advance, especially when next year's conferences have yet to be set is a problem. I'm assuming that Wroxham Classic weekend for next year will be early August and Oulton will be at the end of August. Should be able to dump a Finn at Cox's for a month. So....count me in for Oulton.
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Speaking with the club today, considering the response we have had in just a few days, I think the club is prepared to give the CVRDA a start. But to get the three starta a day, we will need a commitment. At the moment we only have one guarnteed race a day- if you want three a day - commit before December....
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It sounds as if Oulton is the weekend before the CVRDA nationals (which has usually been August bank holiday). I think this will be a problem for many members. I don't think I could do both. I have sailed at a vintage event at Wroxham and thoroughy enjoyed it and have always meant to return. Things, and the 7hr journey, have so far prevented a return unfortunately. Since our calender for 2010 is only just beginning to be planned I don't know that many will be able to give a commitment yet.
Rupert has pointed out the importance of the involvement of local dinghies and their owners to make a sucessful event whether it is an official CVRDA of an event put on by a club for vintage and classic dinghies. So far I see one local Wayfarer and one travelling Finn. If this is proposed as an official CVRDA events then it needs to fit in with the overall calender of events and it seems too close to the traditional date for the Nationals. So next thought is... do we change the Nationals OR does Oulton even become the Nationals in 2010?
Rupert has pointed out the importance of the involvement of local dinghies and their owners to make a sucessful event whether it is an official CVRDA of an event put on by a club for vintage and classic dinghies. So far I see one local Wayfarer and one travelling Finn. If this is proposed as an official CVRDA events then it needs to fit in with the overall calender of events and it seems too close to the traditional date for the Nationals. So next thought is... do we change the Nationals OR does Oulton even become the Nationals in 2010?
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I can only do it as I have two CVRDAble Finns (or will have after the Elvstrom has its surgery), can leave a boat up in Norfolk for a month and have parents with a motor cruiser that hopefully I can use for Wroxham and/or Oulton.
I presume that the East Coast contingent are in contact with the like of Jamie Campbell or Neville Khambatta - perhaps their opinion/support could be canvassed?
I presume that the East Coast contingent are in contact with the like of Jamie Campbell or Neville Khambatta - perhaps their opinion/support could be canvassed?