Tormentor FD on the bay
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Tormentor FD on the bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flying-Dutchm ... 3cee0cbd6b
for those who admired Julian's FD at Clywedog.............
for those who admired Julian's FD at Clywedog.............
Tony
MR 2404 Julia Dream
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MR 2404 Julia Dream
N18 276 Sibrwd [ongoing project]
Hirondelle catamaran Kalipse
[down to 3!]
Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Hiya all
A fine antique, would be either
1. tidy me up and enjoy blasting about, reasonably cheap and great fun, with a limited lifespan (boat not sailors!), or
2. bonfire virtually everything except the hull shell and start again, milking blood for years to pay off Robbins timber and Pinnell and Bax for what would be a very major project.
If anyone in CVRDA decides on either of these paths to righteousness, I would be very happy to advise and support them.
Do love the ?novex? auto-ratchets for the genoa, I can remember them stopping working as soon as they were bought to within a mile of a sandy beach, the tufnol mainsheet jammer, the moss garden feature by the self bailer, and especially what appear to be halyard winches at the mast foot - does anyone have the archaeological training to fully explain them - looks like a square ended handle might have been involved?
Tony Lyall, elder of our tribe, has extensive records regarding the class, and would possibly be able to provide some history.
cheers from the top of the hill in Wales
Julian
PS the only sensible place to wetsand the foils is in the bath, Caution! its not recommended to try this if someone is using the bath, at least not with the coarser grade of paper.
PPS Our cats all behaved extremely badly when we tried to galvanise them, and they have catboxes, not their own trailer.
A fine antique, would be either
1. tidy me up and enjoy blasting about, reasonably cheap and great fun, with a limited lifespan (boat not sailors!), or
2. bonfire virtually everything except the hull shell and start again, milking blood for years to pay off Robbins timber and Pinnell and Bax for what would be a very major project.
If anyone in CVRDA decides on either of these paths to righteousness, I would be very happy to advise and support them.
Do love the ?novex? auto-ratchets for the genoa, I can remember them stopping working as soon as they were bought to within a mile of a sandy beach, the tufnol mainsheet jammer, the moss garden feature by the self bailer, and especially what appear to be halyard winches at the mast foot - does anyone have the archaeological training to fully explain them - looks like a square ended handle might have been involved?
Tony Lyall, elder of our tribe, has extensive records regarding the class, and would possibly be able to provide some history.
cheers from the top of the hill in Wales
Julian
PS the only sensible place to wetsand the foils is in the bath, Caution! its not recommended to try this if someone is using the bath, at least not with the coarser grade of paper.
PPS Our cats all behaved extremely badly when we tried to galvanise them, and they have catboxes, not their own trailer.
Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Roger.........?
and he knows all obout the halyard winches and has a handle to fit
and he knows all obout the halyard winches and has a handle to fit
Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Having just inherited at least one more Planker Hornet I dont have room but have always loved the FD and its one of my one day boats.
Hornet 191 Shoestring,
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Disagree. I prefer sitting on the end of the clubhouse jetty on a hot summer's day, with an ice cream container of warm soapy water beside me and the whole lake to rinse the foil off.Julian wrote:PS the only sensible place to wetsand the foils is in the bath,
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Hi The Shark has winches. Should the winch handles be lost an ordinary squared socketed door handle will work preferably one of the lever types. I have one I use as a spare.
Cheers Al
Cheers Al
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
I have one of these halyard winches (and the handle) on my IC (Torment K102)
I presume in the days before dyneema and the like, a wire halyard was regarded as the best way of getting a virtually inelastic halyard, and a winch / drum would be the only effective way to tension (and tidy up the loose tail of) a wire halyard.
I will get some detailed pics up for you.
I presume in the days before dyneema and the like, a wire halyard was regarded as the best way of getting a virtually inelastic halyard, and a winch / drum would be the only effective way to tension (and tidy up the loose tail of) a wire halyard.
I will get some detailed pics up for you.
Michael Brigg
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
They also make the job of hoisting a heavy fully battened mainsail up a 32ft mast relatively easy.
Cheers Al
Cheers Al
Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
Shoestring has these as well, the winch handle is a bit crucial, my father and I made a rather nice one. Crude but effective, A ratchet from a socket set fits as well if the original goes over board.
Hornet 191 Shoestring,
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
Hornet 595 Demon awaiting restoration
Hornet 610 Final Fling
Hornet 353
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Re: Tormentor FD on the bay
With Fairey wooden masts, the winch is completely internal within the mast with the winch handle going through the wood side of the mast.
Some handles are like you show, but some of the Fairey ones were anodised aluminium.
Some had 1/2in square holes and others were smaller, maybe 3/8in.
Always found winches really easy to work with and gave easy adjustement on and off the water, but not with the obvious immediacy of a well set up cunningham.
eib
Some handles are like you show, but some of the Fairey ones were anodised aluminium.
Some had 1/2in square holes and others were smaller, maybe 3/8in.
Always found winches really easy to work with and gave easy adjustement on and off the water, but not with the obvious immediacy of a well set up cunningham.
eib
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